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Shipping!
curiousAlso, if you could answer each question (even if it's to say "I'm not going to answer this questin") I'd really appreciate it (that way the results won't be skewed one way or the other).
Before we even go there, no ship-bashing in the comments. All ship-bashing comment threads will be frozen (not deleted). You can talk about ships you don't like; just don't be malicious about the ship(s) and/or insult people who do ship that way.
Poll #1356 Shipping in Fandom
Open to: All, results viewable to: All
Do you think het shipping has a negative stigma in fandom?
Yes.
8 (6.5%)
Somewhat. 41 (33.3%)
Not really. 16 (13.0%)
No. 17 (13.8%)
Depends on the fandom. 71 (57.7%)
I don't think about it. 15 (12.2%)
I don't like this question. 0 (0.0%)
I don't like this poll. 0 (0.0%)
I'm not going to answer this quesiton. 0 (0.0%)
I'll say something in the comments. 2 (1.6%)
None of the answers to the question above suited me. If I could've answered that question, I would have said: (If you choose this option, go back and mark "I'm not going to answer this question" in the question above, or type "n/a" if this doesn't apply to you)
Do you think slash shipping has a negative stigma in fandom?
Yes. 5 (4.1%)
Somewhat. 22 (17.9%)
Not Really. 28 (22.8%)
No. 41 (33.3%)
Depends on the fandom. 50 (40.7%)
I don't think about it. 6 (4.9%)
I don't like this question. 2 (1.6%)
I don't like this poll. 0 (0.0%)
I'm not going to answer this quesiton. 1 (0.8%)
I'll say something in the comments. 1 (0.8%)
None of the answers to the question above suited me. If I could've answered that question, I would have said: (If you choose this option, go back and mark "I'm not going to answer this question" in the question above, or type "n/a" if this doesn't apply to you)
Do you think femmeslash shipping has a negative stigma in fandom?
Yes. 15 (12.3%)
Somewhat. 23 (18.9%)
Not really. 27 (22.1%)
No. 29 (23.8%)
Depends on the fandom. 34 (27.9%)
I don't think about it. 16 (13.1%)
I don't like this question. 1 (0.8%)
I don't like this poll. 0 (0.0%)
I'm not going to answer this quesiton. 1 (0.8%)
I'll say something in the comments. 1 (0.8%)
None of the answers to the question above suited me. If I could've answered that question, I would have said: (If you choose this option, go back and mark "I'm not going to answer this question" in the question above, or type "n/a" if this doesn't apply to you)
How do you ship?
Het 80 (65.6%)
Slash 90 (73.8%)
Femmeslash 51 (41.8%)
Canon 67 (54.9%)
Fanon 66 (54.1%)
Depends on the fandom. 61 (50.0%)
I don't ship. I'm gen all the way. 4 (3.3%)
I don't like this question. 2 (1.6%)
I don't like this poll. 0 (0.0%)
I don't like this poll. 0 (0.0%)
I'll say something in the comments. 9 (7.4%)
None of the answers to the question above suited me. If I could've answered that question, I would have said: (If you choose this option, go back and mark "I'm not going to answer this question" in the question above, or type "n/a" if this doesn't apply to you)
Do you ship OT3s (OT3 = One True Threesome) in any of your fandoms?
Yes. 50 (41.7%)
No. 42 (35.0%)
Depends on the fandom. 40 (33.3%)
I don't ship. I'm gen all the way. 2 (1.7%)
I don't like this question. 1 (0.8%)
I don't like this poll. 0 (0.0%)
I'm not going to answer this quesiton. 1 (0.8%)
I'll say something in the comments. 4 (3.3%)
None of the answers to the question above suited me. If I could've answered that question, I would have said: (If you choose this option, go back and mark "I'm not going to answer this question" in the question above, or type "n/a" if this doesn't apply to you)
What would you say is your main fandom (ie, the one you participate in most)? (Type "n/a" if you decline to answer this question.)
What would you say your OTP is in that fandom (OTP = One True Pairing)? (Type "n/a" if you decline to answer this question.)
If you ship OT3s, what would you say your OT3 is in your main fandom? (Type "n/a" if you decline to answer this question and/or don't have an OT3 in your main fandom.)
Anything else?
Thanks for taking my poll!
If everyonne adopted a 'live and let live' mentaility, there wouldn't be shipwars, and thus fandoms wouldn't be divided over what is fanon and what is canon. At the very heart fandom wank lives and breathes on it.
Personally I think ship wars are stupid. I like what I like, and if someone tries to convert me otherwise, I just give them ye old internet finger and go on my own way, because I sure as hell could be doing better things then arguing with a crazed fan.
I will say I don't go to Dr. Who shipping comms, for the most part, because the frenzied behavior. And on LJ, I rarely visit the pairing comms because of outrageous, and usually hurtful behavior.
The stigma belongs on the fans interpretations, not the pairing (be it slash/het/femmeslash/all three). For me, the character reactions and thoughts are the driving force, not if they fit into a neat little box of perceived sexuality. I can like Sheppard with McKay, or with Hot Female #2. Or I can like Rose with Martha or Nine. OR Denise and Frank or Denise and Claudia Joy. It's a matter of what appeals to me.
Of course I break the mold because I love gen, too. I actually I read as much, if not not more gen, and write it. I can't write ships, so I stick to gen. Though, I will allude to previous or crushes, but they're not the main focus. Just insights.
That said, I do think femmeslash's acceptance depends on the fandom. Like Xena fandom would be more accepting than say current bandom's. In a large fandom like HP, femmeslash isn't entirely ignored and seems to have a following. Or it did a couple years ago when I was involved. And Buffy had a high percentage because of interactions with Faith and Buffy, or the canon Willow/Tara, or Willow/Kennedy. I think it depends somewhat on the ratio of source girls. High ratio, higher percent of acceptance. In the same turn, in something like SGA, the predominate ship is McKay/Sheppard, so it might not be as a popular or accepted because the girls tend to canonically be ignored for long periods of time.
I sort of feel that ship-bashing is done by more immature fans (of any age, hehe!). Any ship is a good ship, all ships have their place in fandoms.
It's all about maturity, and I don't mean age. :-) I've seen 30 to 50 year-olds fighting like rabid dogs, making asses of themselves, and then I've seen fans in their early teens debating politely and intelligently. So, maturity comes into play.
I've seen so many shipping wars, and I think they're disgusting. They're unnecessary headache. Whenever someone tries to argue with me about shipping - and I have many stories I could tell - I just roll my eyes and go back to what I was doing. Shipping to me is, after all, all about having fun (so is gen!)
Happy shipping! :-)
Yes, that! In most fandoms, even smallish ones, with some looking you can usually find a group that suits your shipping tastes.
In a nutshell? I think fandom should be big enough for everyone to have their own little corner/sandbox/whatever. I scroll past what does not appeal to me, and read/view what does.
:D
I do have an OT3 for Buffy, though (Buffy/Spike/Angel).
I said "depends on the fandom" for the first question because I have recently discovered that in the Death Note fandom, most of them frown upon what is the main het ship of Light/Misa - I probably still would have said that in answer to that question though, even if I hadn't found that out.
Also, I could've ticked "slash" on the "how do you ship" question, but I didn't, since I only have three slash ships compared to het ones and...it's more that I like the idea (or it amuses me) rather than I actively ship them.
This was an interesting poll! Thanks for posting it :)
I just wanted to comment that reading gen exclusively is not the only alternative to having a OTP or OT3. I do read gen. I also read m/f, m/m, f/f, threesomes, moresomes, whatever comes my way and appeals at the moment. There are some fandoms in which I avoid sexually explicit fic but don't mind lighter relationship or romance stuff (though I usually prefer other plot, too).
I think the whole My Shipping Genre Is Oppressed thing is very silly. Slightly less silly from the slashfen, but still silly. I have never seen anyone decry all het unless they were slightly nuts. I have seen people decry all slash; usually they are either a) homophobes, b) under the impression that all slash is over-the-top seme/uke yaoi fluff, or c) both. I don't think femslash is acknowledged enough to be bashed. :D